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crazybanshee · Nov 08, 2008, 06:48 PM // 18:48

With the update coming next week, one stupidly grindy title I hope they'll address (but sincerely doubt it) is the cartography title. What? Nobody ever mentions it. I think once you get 100% (or greater

) exploration of a continent on one toon, and you finish that chapter on another toon, you should be able to pay a nominal fee (50k or so) and get all the outposts on that continent opened to your toon. It's just one annoying thing that you have to do if you have multiple toons on one account, run around and visit all the towns. In prophecies there's a horde of towns you never have to visit, and in factions and nf there's a bunch of towns you will not visit if you follow one side of the storyline, unless you make a point of going back and doing the other side. But, this would only work if you've got 100% exploration on at least one of your characters, and you finish the chapter on the character.

By doing it this way, it's not really unbalancing it or making it automatically give more points to gwamm hunters, as it's already becoming way too easy to get gwamm.

[Morkai] · Nov 08, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Haven't read it all. Title says it all.

No. Just no. It's an extremely easy extremely free title. Go enjoy the scenery.
You don't wanna grind? Don't do it.

Koudelka · Nov 08, 2008, 07:18 PM // 19:18

It's not like wisdom or the reputation titles: rather than just points, the title affects the world map. Are you saying a new char should be able to map anywhere they like and instantly get leet stuff just because someone else has?

I agree that a lot of titles need to be made account wide: this is not one of them.

Kook~NBK~ · Nov 08, 2008, 07:26 PM // 19:26

/not signed on the grounds that it seems rather silly to make suggestions about titles knowing full well that there are changes to titles coming within the week and no one knows exactly what all of those changes will entail.

I also agree with Koudelka, opening up the maps to undeveloped characters would screw up the system of character progression.

TrippieHippie89 · Nov 08, 2008, 07:28 PM // 19:28

well a big GG to both of you not reading the post

as for the title itself? i dont think it should be granted to another character, as for the outpost thing...i do like that idea but then again theres already something similar implimented into the game

go to a town, type in WTB run, plenty of all runner guilds, for missions, quests, and the old fashioned run(like proph)

hell, 50k ill run you through every town/outpost in proph and run you through the missions you need completed to get to the rof islands and such

Nazar Razak · Nov 08, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39

people who havent read the post: retards

/signed
on the condition that instead of a 50k fee, it is only available at level 20/ascension/finished last mission. Otherwise youd just have hundreds of level 1s with full elite armor :P

Shayne Hawke · Nov 08, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41

While that doesn't sound unreasonable, it's not that hard to run from outpost to outpost in any location that matters that much.

Stupid Shizno · Nov 08, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41

sorry, but dumb idea

the point to cartograph is to show that your char has explored the whole map. not your account.

on a side note the only pve title i think should be acct based is guardian/protector. for the simple logic if you beat the mission already on a char, you have an understanding how the mission works even if your on a diff char, the experience from your char does infact transfer between chars since your playing them. you dont log on your main char then go on a lvl2 and say "hrm, i wonder what i do next, oh yea kill everything skip cutscene and kill more"

majikmajikmajik · Nov 08, 2008, 08:00 PM // 20:00

/notsigned
getting a max title for 50k is absurd. carto takes less then a day for ea game, its very easy and you dont need a build for it(let the henches do the work).

on a side note- the only titles that should be account based are--
Champion
Gamer
Gladiator
Hero
Lucky
Unlucky
Zaishen
Allegiance (Kurzick/Luxon)
Commander
Treasure Hunter
Wisdom

Which all of them are, execpt for the last 2 in which they will be next week.

oeg82000 · Nov 08, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08

I think what most of titles must be acc.based,but not:
1.survivor(funy to see chars lvl 1 with this title)
2.protectors
3.cartographer
4.skill hunter
All those must be done by each character
5.and maybe hero too(joke)

Konig Des Todes · Nov 08, 2008, 08:17 PM // 20:17

/notsigned

Cartography is an achievement title, which means it is one of the few titles that is only grind when you do it on multiple characters, which you don't need to do.

The closest to account based I'd agree to make cartography, would be the actual map, but no outposts. But even that kind of ruins the point of it being an achievement title.

Personally, I think that ANet should remove all titles except the Achievement Titles.

That means, only titles I support are:

Protectors
Guardians
Legendary Guardians
Survivor - needs a change to HFFF and Fronis dungeon
Cartographer
Legendary Cartographer
Skill Hunter
Legendary Skill Hunter
Vanquisher
Legendary Vanquisher
Legendary Master of the North
Legendary Defender of Ascalon - needs a rework though

And I would love to see these titles reworked into acting like Legendary Master of the North (that being, get Protector, Guardian, Vanquisher, Cartographer, and Skill Hunter for one continent and get Legendary Master of -title-, then all 4 would be Legendary Master/Savior or something of the like).

All others, remove, reduce grind, or account based.

wind fire and ice · Nov 08, 2008, 08:19 PM // 20:19

Okay,well.

Make it where you get the towns-but NOT the titles and it would be fine,otherwise no.

Elder III · Nov 08, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30

Not signed

Grand Master Cartographer is one of the few titles left that has any real prestige in it any more. So many titles are purchasable now (one way or the other). When I still played the game (just a couple months ago) - My Cartographer title was the only one that regularly got comments from random people. True hard core players generally respect the titles that take many many hours of devotion to aquire... getting that last 0.7% (esp without any text mods) takes some work.

my 2 cents

BlueNovember · Nov 08, 2008, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Holy hell people.

=== READ WHAT HE IS SAYING ===

My god. Yes, the title was poorly chosen, but have the decency to read his post before knee-jerking into a "zomg no account based title" response.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OP

With the update coming next week, one stupidly grindy title I hope they'll address (but sincerely doubt it) is the cartography title. What? Nobody ever mentions it. I think once you get 100% (or greater ) exploration of a continent on one toon, and you finish that chapter on another toon, you should be able to pay a nominal fee (50k or so) and get all the outposts on that continent opened to your toon. It's just one annoying thing that you have to do if you have multiple toons on one account, run around and visit all the towns. In prophecies there's a horde of towns you never have to visit, and in factions and nf there's a bunch of towns you will not visit if you follow one side of the storyline, unless you make a point of going back and doing the other side. But, this would only work if you've got 100% exploration on at least one of your characters, and you finish the chapter on the character.

On topic, I'm neutral to the idea. I quite enjoy replaying the games on different professions/running toons to outposts in preparation for helping friends should they require it (I may as well get credit on a toon that hasn't done a mission if I'm helping someone through it). If I could unlock all the oustposts I'd lose some motivation to do that.

MStarfire · Nov 08, 2008, 09:35 PM // 21:35

This is a HORRIBLE idea. I support maybe allowing your characters to by a completely unfogged map, but not at all allowing access to every outpost. Retarded idea.

gremlin · Nov 08, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

I think Arenanet should be censured for forcing all these poor people to grind for titles.
Just who the heck do they think they are demanding players get the titles for all characters.

Oh wait they don't actually force anyone they just created the titles and some people are so darned stupid they want to get every title on every character, but want it to be easy.

to the op
I know your just asking for one title but once one falls they all will and we will be buried under similar threads.

Get the title don't get the title its that simple.

oeg82000 · Nov 08, 2008, 10:10 PM // 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by MStarfire

This is a HORRIBLE idea. I support maybe allowing your characters to by a completely unfogged map, but not at all allowing access to every outpost. Retarded idea.

agreed with u.if change cartography to acc, based title,towns and outposts still must be unlocked as usually(do quests and misses).
ps.i have elonian carography title on monk,working on canta,and no way i go for this title on other chars.but wont mind if other chars get it too

crazybanshee · Nov 08, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20

Wow, you people fail at reading. I realize I picked a crappy title for my thread, but damn learn2read huh? By no means was this a way to get a max title on any toon, or make it account based, because AS I SUGGESTED YOU WOULD HAVE TO FINISH THE GAME FIRST and HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN 100% ON ANOTHER CHARACTER added to the fact that IT WOULD ONLY OPEN OUTPOSTS, NOT THE ENTIRE MAP thus not really affecting giving anyone a free title. Geez. Mods, please close this thread, guru /fails at life today.

Shayne Hawke · Nov 08, 2008, 11:11 PM // 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazybanshee

Wow, you people fail at reading. I realize I picked a crappy title for my thread, but damn learn2read huh? By no means was this a way to get a max title on any toon, or make it account based, because AS I SUGGESTED YOU WOULD HAVE TO FINISH THE GAME FIRST and HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN 100% ON ANOTHER CHARACTER added to the fact that IT WOULD ONLY OPEN OUTPOSTS, NOT THE ENTIRE MAP thus not really affecting giving anyone a free title. Geez. Mods, please close this thread, guru /fails at life today.

I suggest you add some kind of bold header to your OP to clarify. You'll have to specifically shout at people that it's not a suggestion to make the title account based, or they won't hear it that way.

MagmaRed · Nov 09, 2008, 12:07 AM // 00:07

Account based or not, opening cities to characters is a bad idea. In fact, people got banned for mapping others to cities they hadn't been to with the guild hall glitch in the past. Why? Because they didn't deserve to go there.

/unsigned